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 05-11-2013, 12:41 PM | #16 |
thaskalos Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 28,537 | Quote: Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz We (as a nation) should be frightened by this, but (apparently) we are not. It is coming. This is where one or more lefties jump in and tell us that this: 1. Never happened I think that this is a warning signal to some of the righties of this board...who think that they are arming themselves for protection against the government. __________________ |
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| 05-11-2013, 01:38 PM | #17 |
JustRalph Just another Facist Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Now in Houston Posts: 52,761 | Quote: Originally Posted by thaskalos I think that this is a warning signal to some of the righties of this board...who think that they are arming themselves for protection against the government. Most of us are arming ourselves against the neighbors................. You know, for when the EBT doesn't work anymore? |
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| 05-11-2013, 02:23 PM | #18 |
TJDave Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 10,981 | Quote: Originally Posted by JustRalph Most of us are arming ourselves against the neighbors................. My neighbors don't know but when everything goes south...I'll be moving in. __________________ |
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| 05-11-2013, 02:50 PM | #19 |
Dave Schwartz Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 16,908 | Quote: Most of us are arming ourselves against the neighbors................. Precisely why I bought my first weapon. I did not wish to be the last guy on my block to be armed. I agree with TJD about the fact that they will come with tanks and they will certainly defeat me. However, there will always be the HOPE of ORGANIZED resistance and disarming of the population would work against that hope. __________________ email address: |
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| 05-11-2013, 02:57 PM | #20 |
mostpost Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: North Riverside, Il. Posts: 16,081 | Quote: Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz We (as a nation) should be frightened by this, but (apparently) we are not. It is coming. This is where one or more lefties jump in and tell us that this: 1. Never happened Sorry it took me so long. I've been busy with important things like organizing my sock drawer. This did happen, but it was nothing like the hysteria you find on the lunatic right wing web sites. Here are some facts. How many guns did this massive street to street, house to house, door to door sweep using police, national guard and imperial storm troopers led by Darth Vader confiscate? According to stories in USA Today and on FOX NEWS between five hundred and fifty and seven hundred guns were confiscated out of an estimated 118,400. What guns were confiscated? Guns that were stolen and guns found in abandoned homes. In my opinion, the video in the original post is fake. I think it is a combination of clips from other operations and actors playing a role. Confiscating guns that were stolen or found stashed in alleys or in abandoned homes is a perfectly legitimate exercise of police power for public safety. Of course the NRA and other goofs on the right are very good at spinning conspiracy theories. __________________ |
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| 05-11-2013, 04:08 PM | #21 |
JustRalph Just another Facist Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Now in Houston Posts: 52,761 | Quote: Originally Posted by mostpost What guns were confiscated? Guns that were stolen and guns found in abandoned homes. This is a damned lie. You don't know what you are talking about. This video was part of a CBS report. Look it up. The guys in the boat? You think they are actors? They were interviewed by several news people at the time. Christ.......!!! almighty. You will do anything/Say anything to justify the government. You think that old lady being tackled on camera by the cops was acting? watch the long form above..........the last half is the part that you might find interesting. The part about the lawsuit? [YT="Long form"]1Q2BXH0JfOc[/YT] Last edited by JustRalph; 05-11-2013 at 04:19 PM. |
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| 05-11-2013, 06:27 PM | #22 |
Robert Goren Racing Form Detective Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lincoln, Ne but my heart is at Santa Anita Posts: 16,316 | Anything done in NO was done under GWB who was backed the NRA in two elections. If this stuff fears you, then vote democratic. Liberals could never get their act together long enough to pull off it off. If it is ever done, it will be done by conservatives in name of protecting the country thugs either foreign or domestic. Just think about it for a second. Who pushing for a state Id card. A state ID card was something every Conservative opposed just a few years ago, but now they demanding you get one in order to vote, one of your basic rights. How cheaply conservatives sell out and over an issue that effect only a couple thousands voters at most. If the liberals tried something this, there would be a loud outcry from conservatives. Conservative conspiracy theories would abound and Fox News would have somebody on every ten minutes say the liberals were trying to take away your right to to vote by secret ballot. You know I am right. __________________ Last edited by Robert Goren; 05-11-2013 at 06:30 PM. |
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| 05-11-2013, 06:40 PM | #23 |
fast4522 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 14,463 | A Federal ID card is a better idea, without a Federal ID perhaps you can not board a plane inside the US without a visa or cross the George Washing Bridge or other points inside the country. And make it so undocumented persons can not get one, why make it easy for fome to drain our system? |
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| 05-11-2013, 08:21 PM | #24 |
mostpost Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: North Riverside, Il. Posts: 16,081 | Quote: Originally Posted by JustRalph This is a damned lie. You don't know what you are talking about. This video was part of a CBS report. Look it up. The guys in the boat? You think they are actors? They were interviewed by several news people at the time. Christ.......!!! almighty. You will do anything/Say anything to justify the government. You think that old lady being tackled on camera by the cops was acting? watch the long form above..........the last half is the part that you might find interesting. The part about the lawsuit? [YT="Long form"]1Q2BXH0JfOc[/YT] The video is a CBS report? Really? It says right at the start that it was produced by the NRA. Wayne Lapierre is prominent in several parts. The video is supposed to be about gun confiscation in New Orleans after Katrina, but one guy says he was told that his guns were in the custody of the New Jersey state police. Last I checked New Orleans was in Louisiana. Even this video, produced by the NRA, states that the police are (or were) in possession of about 1100 firearms. Probably less then one percent of the legal firearms in New Orleans. Of course most of those confiscated were not legal. As someone pointed out, this video is ten years old. These events took place during the Bush administration. Perhaps you can point out other large scale gun confiscations. The whole thing is right wing paranoia. It gets worse every year. It is pathetic. __________________ |
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| 05-11-2013, 09:36 PM | #25 |
newtothegame Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 5,597 | Quote: Originally Posted by mostpost The video is a CBS report? Really? It says right at the start that it was produced by the NRA. Wayne Lapierre is prominent in several parts. The video is supposed to be about gun confiscation in New Orleans after Katrina, but one guy says he was told that his guns were in the custody of the New Jersey state police. Last I checked New Orleans was in Louisiana. Even this video, produced by the NRA, states that the police are (or were) in possession of about 1100 firearms. Probably less then one percent of the legal firearms in New Orleans. Of course most of those confiscated were not legal. As someone pointed out, this video is ten years old. These events took place during the Bush administration. Perhaps you can point out other large scale gun confiscations. The whole thing is right wing paranoia. It gets worse every year. It is pathetic. Not even close to right wing paranoia...... you say only a small percentage of guns were taken...... Anywhere we went, we were met with national guard troops and they completely searched your vehicle. If a weapon was found and you didn't have proper documentation (at least in St Bernard Parish), it was taken...no ifs ands or buts about it. Now how was most people supposed to have their documentation when our damn houses were completely flooded and most of us were returning to salvage whatever we could??? Yeah I know, we should of taken it with us.....well I did and I kept mine (guns). Point is, it was illegal search and seizure in my opinion. All that needed to be done was run the numbers of a weapon and verify the owner. Case closed! There was no need for what happened here..... And to goren who claimed it was bush, sorry...Bush was not our governor giving orders......you might want to look that up.......Kathleen Blanco was a freaking joke and a huge part of the reason New Orleans was in trouble for as long as it was...... __________________ |
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| 05-11-2013, 09:50 PM | #26 |
JustRalph Just another Facist Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Now in Houston Posts: 52,761 | Quote: Originally Posted by mostpost The video is a CBS report? Really? It says right at the start that it was produced by the NRA. Wayne Lapierre is prominent in several parts. The video is supposed to be about gun confiscation in New Orleans after Katrina, but one guy says he was told that his guns were in the custody of the New Jersey state police. Last I checked New Orleans was in Louisiana. Even this video, produced by the NRA, states that the police are (or were) in possession of about 1100 firearms. Probably less then one percent of the legal firearms in New Orleans. Of course most of those confiscated were not legal. As someone pointed out, this video is ten years old. These events took place during the Bush administration. Perhaps you can point out other large scale gun confiscations. The whole thing is right wing paranoia. It gets worse every year. It is pathetic. You're such a dumbass sometimes. The New Jersey State Police and several other states were in N.O. helping out. In the video you can see CHP officers from California. Some of the footage was taken from a local CBS affiliate in N.O. Like I said it's been around a while. You trying to use Bush as a straw man is typical. It doesn't matter who was in charge, the point of the video is that it happen at all. I see you have no comment on the Federal Judge who ordered it stopped? I guess he was an actor too........... |
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